11 October 1977
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I am Mevlana.
It was/is given that you will conform to the new one.
It was/is told
That you will take your place, [? That you will take your place [in after earth life], ?]
That you will find Yourself in the new one.
Forty-ones to the order that is [will be] ready;
You, in the order that is ready,
In other words,
You will take your place
In the order that is ready on the [current] day.
On the day, it is set up,
On the day that comes, eyvallah.
In order for human to take his/her place,
He/she is first [spiritually] educated.
[the reason] It is made known to you [is]:
Because the one who knows is more inclined
Toward conforming,
Because he/she enters the environment
Where he/she can see his/her mistakes.
It is necessary that you complete your [spiritual] maturation
First in the order that is at home,
Then in the order that is in the neighborhood,
Then further in the order that is in the quarter
So that you can climb from group [level] to all [humans].
First vision, [vision==to see HIM in HIS creations [hence, love all of HIS creations]]
Then knowledge,
Then giving.
[however, before all:]
Whatever happens,
First it is necessary that you love
Without finding defect,
Without seeing as faulty.
If you conform to the order [orderliness]
[then] Your love increases.
You are together with the one who is just
Against the one who is unjust;
Yet without giving to
[heart] Breaking criticism. [yet you should not break heart]
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We gave before,
“First in your own surrounding,”
We said.
Yet
There is no favoring of young one-[or] old one [do not discriminate among old and young humans]
When telling the correct.
It is only necessary not to be scathing.
If you look at his/her foot
And tell [about] his/her dust,
It is scathing.
In every event,
It is necessary not be scathing.
The saying:
“Tree bends when it is young,”
Comes from there.
[when the tree is not put in shape when it is young, if it grows into a bad shape, then:]
It finds itself only
When its branches are broken,
When only trunk is left.
Yogurt [is] white
Yet it can not become milk;
On the other hand, it is from milk.
The one who is loved is like that too.
He/she is from The Building,
Yet he/she is not The Building.
Your question [is] also like that:
It is from milk,
Yet it is not milk.
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Goodbye.
Lailaheillallah Muhammedur Resulullah. [Allah is The only One to be worshiped, and Mohammad is HIS Representative.]
16 October 1977
I am Mevlana.
Secret path does not give from hal,
Beautiful word does not erase from earth, [one does not get free of earth load, with beautiful word only…]
The one that is called as ‘spare’ [spare==human who doubts WHAT he/she searches [from the chat on 8/28/77]]
Is not from the ones that are transferred to the page.
Flower is beautiful at the place where it blooms;
It is 'dry leaf' at the place where it falls.
The judgment of the one who is witness
Erases the worry of the one who caused.
In iron, order [orderliness] comes from hand.
What sand gives, foot erases.
If you say,
“I have place in four directions,
I have [place in] my heart for each human,” [I do not discriminate among humans’ directions, I love them all]
[then] You find The Reality in your dream.
What is meant by dream
Is the one that you make come together
Thanks to The One That you made come into Being in your mind.
[Previous verses may be better understood under the light of the following information: during sleep, spirit of the human who has permission from Allah meets with other spirits of the same spiritual level and/or his/her saint.]
Let it be known that what happens in the environment [? Let it be known that what is in the environment ?]
Gives your place in The Order.
Let your tongue repeat
What you take with hal.
Let it not be forgotten:
In heart, Witness is The Lofty One.
In the order [orderliness], nacre conforms to dry leaf;
Its craftsman chisels the tree,
Places nacre inlay onto the one that he/she chisels.
It is known
That in his/her mind he/she takes like in the example of iron,
That he/she asks its [the iron's] right temperature from us.
When he/she says,
"Let me know my stove,
Let me turn my place to my direction,
Let me find at my home The Real One of The Order,”
We join from heart.
The one who comes as helper to the flow of the water,
The one who gave HIS path on his [? your ?] day,
The one who shows his being in your love,
The one who comes to your help on the days when he is remembered:
Eyup Sultan.
The One Who is Existent gives your place.
If you say, “The one that is nonexistent?”
The One Who is Existent, does not become nonexistent;
If it is nonexistent, it is not known.
Open The Reality with your tongue, with your heart.
Choose your building in the direction that you love.
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[Eyup Sultan says:]
Packsaddle is given to the one who/that takes load.
Sheep is driven by shepherd.
The one who loves flower
Nourishes [the flower],
Decorates his/her home.
If it is like that,
When I love the flower at neighbor[‘s home]
Then how do I praise myself saying, “I loved [the flower]”?
The one who loves,
Loves even if what he/she loves has thorn.
Human praises the rose [together] with [its] thorn.
Our path is like that.
When
“Why does rose have thorn?”
Was said,
We said,
“So that raw hands do not pluck.” [? “So that [spiritually] immature humans do not pluck.” ?]
[Eyup Sultan’s chat ends here]
Beauties are always given with covers;
To the one who protects
Table with nacre inlay is presented.
Goodbye.
Lailaheillallah Muhammedur Resulullah. [Allah is The only One to be worshiped, and Mohammad is HIS Representative.]
16 October 1977
(Another chat on the same date)
I am Mevlana.
If you say,
“What I eat, what I wear are here,
Where is the one that/whom [? WHOM ?] I love,
[where is] The one that/whom [? WHOM ?] I respect?”
[answer:] At the place where you defeat the difficulty.
If you do not ask the one who says, “Stop!”
If you do not arrive at The Lofty One through heart
[then:]
What you know does not give,
What you see does not display; [vision==to see HIM in HIS creations]
Logic conforms to the interpretation of none of them.
For that [reason], think of
What you eat, what you wear
As to [for] the building [body];
For the one whom/that [? For The One Whom ?] you love,
For the one whom/that [? For The One Whom ?] you respect
[think of] The example that you take from leaf.
He/she asks about the one who stands on his/her path since birth,
He/she interprets each event, messily.
In [spiritual] maturity,
Let us search simplicity.
Like that,
Let us come to solution with logic.
Interpretation while watching [the event]
Keeps on turning
Like in the example of leaf that joins the wind.
See the leaf on branch,
Know HIS human in hal;
Then messy thought finds its place,
Solution to each event is seen.
Carry the events
Not from end to beginning
But from beginning to end.
Because
The beginning is the one that you know,
The end is the one that you interpret.
How do you know that the event
Will be solved as you interpret?
For that [reason], I said:
Do not enter the event in the wrong direction.
Even if word comes as contradictory,
The day that will come, is waited for.
Neither with the word of the one who says [fortune]
Nor as how one expects,
Does the event come as known [as planned]. [human can not command the events…]
The day on which the notch is opened,
Stone does not stay on the path. [when one perceives The Reality, his/her path becomes free of stones…]
Meydan is asked about,
Openness is sought in vision. [vision==to see HIM in HIS creations]
The one whom the one who is satiated, seeks,
Is his/her equivalent.
What the one who loves, asks
Is his/her harmony.
My Yunus says:
Because
If I said, “I do not hear,”
If I ate the food on my own
It would be said, “He does not mature [spiritually],”
I took spouse to my home,
[I took] Friend to my table.
I wished for soft pillow.
[yet] Day came, I put the head on stone.
Neither did I rejoice because of the soft one
Nor did I complain because of the hard one.
What is wished to be taken
Is of course given;
Yet
It is only woven with deep love.
What is called [as] ‘heaven’ is on earth;
‘Hell’ is what one endures.
It is hell as much as you can endure.
Of course, beyond that [is] heaven.
Foot carries,
Hand [? Human ?] makes hand be held.
Deep love makes nightingale sing.
Practice makes chat be opened.
Chat is at the place where hell ends.
The one who waits in shade,
Makes his/her path longer.
The one who walks under the sun [sun==Prophet Mohammad]
Comes to HIS path quickly.
[we said about] Matter and The Meaning.
When
“Let me go at full speed,
Let me know what my path is,”
Is said,
It is seen that
No place is taken from patience. [he/she is not patient]
In fact,
It is known that
Whether human wishes or not,
He/she will conform to the writing, [the writing==the destiny that Allah traces in each moment]
That he/she will take the one that happens
As much [spiritually] mature as he/she is.
Yet
Complaint falls down from the tongue.
If you say,
“Is there usefulness or harm
In complaint?” [is complaint useful or harmful?]
Both its usefulness and its harm
Are to HIS human.
The one who knows what will happen
In accordance with his/her [spiritual] maturity,
[he/she] Gives peace both to him/herself and to his/her surrounding.
“I took the handkerchief,
I erased the leaf,” you say. [leaf==human]
[? I erased the page," you say. [page==page of the destiny] ?]
You, you can not erase the leaf.
[? You can not erase the page. ?]
We opened path to the new one,
We passed to interpretation from every path.
My Allah does not give the one that is not good deed,
Human does not collect the one that is not written.
Do not say,
“I wish that what I search, would come,
[I wish] That it was in my destiny:”
Because human’s writing does not change.
If you think that what changes is in your hand: [if you think that you can change the events:]
On which day did you trace your path yourself?
In each event, you [have] set up plan,
In result, you saw the opposite.
In what happened, did you find your own plan?
Battle is victory for the one who wins.
Each one who enters battle,
Enters to win.
Unexpected event disrupts the order.
Hence, plan is not within the power of human.
Events are written,
Are engraved in the destiny;
Neither can you stop
Nor can you change.
The most beautiful is seen when you say,
“My Allah, I referred [submitted/transferred] to YOU.”
I am Yunus.
Let us embrace the surrounding,
Let us see HIS each human:
Who has what as trouble?
[to] The one who wishes for help:
Say Meaningful word [to him/her].
I am Mevlana.
Because of being feverish,
Because of seeing the event as messy,
“You are in fault,” we said,
We gave before.
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“Sheep, lamb [are] in herd,
Shepherd goes behind,
My path stayed halfway,”
You say,
You search The Reality through the window.
Door is open
As much as the heart takes,
As much as one pleads.
Do not say,
“Let there be a lot,
Let less be erased.”
[say] “Thank YOU” for less too.
For ‘a lot,’ plead [with HIM].
Find ONEness with [in] peace.
Leaf does not resemble [another] leaf,
Flower does not give the same scent.
Saints do not set up congregation to unite in ONEness
In every nest. [nest==Mevlana’s/Garib’s congregation]
In the ones who say,
“We joined the chat,” [among humans who attend the chat]
Patience with [in] every hal
Is not seen.
Let us take the plan as it is, [? Let us take the plan as it matures [progresses], ?]
Let us give our love
To the one who knows - to the one who does not know.
Let one not say,
“It is what I [already] know.”
It is of course The One That is known;
Yet our writing is the one that is read to all [humans].
Saints are givers,
My Allah assigns [them] to duty.
The one who does not [spiritually] mature in patience
Does not come to saint.
If one matures without patience
He/she is not called [as] saint.
Impatience is in human.
If you say ‘reproach,’
If you turn direction to [already] tried path,
You search ‘reproach’ in what you take.
Our congregation to unite in ONEness comes into being,
It grows [develops] in interpretation.
What opens path to questioning [what causes questions]
Is the hal of entering intensive work.
Wideness
That is on the path that you will cross,
That is in the hand that you will hold
Without saying, “cold-hot,”
Without seeing the path as mud[dy],
[that wideness]
Opens of course path to the increase of the current. [causes the current to increase]
With pleading, you will conform to The Reality.
Do not ask for witness,
Do not search ill-gotten-gain.
The one who takes from ill-gotten-gain
Is, nevertheless, the one who runs away from him/herself.
The leaf that ripens at the summit
Is the one that looks at the sun, [sun==Prophet Mohammad; green==LIGHT color of Prophet Mohammad]
Is the one that takes the most beautiful from the green.
Let us conform
Not to what the lake gives
But to what the river makes flow: [river flows to ocean; lake does not] [lake/well==religious fanatics] [ocean==God]
[lake:] The one who stops
[river:] And the one who arrives [at HIM].
In the vineyard, "Grape," is said.
Let it not be forgotten:
Its unripe one is eaten too.
[however,]
The one that is waited for [to ripen]
Is appropriate.
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Our [spiritual] table is set up,
Let the ones who are hungry, come,
Let him/her take his/her God-given share
From the table of The Meaning.
“We divided the apple into four
We took two of the four,” you say.
The one who tries, finds like in the example of deer:
Even if his/her direction turns,
He/she takes from the surrounding.
There is no place for worry.
In the word that you don’t say,
In the risk that you do not take
Do not leave as inharmonious. [in the word that you say, in the risk that you take, leave [him/her] as harmonious…]
The one who opens path
Is the one who is helper,
Whether you know or not,
[he/she] Is the one who is being conformed to, in the current.
Do not say:
“The One That I take drop by drop,
The Beautiful One,
Is sufficient, I say."
Do not leave The Beautiful One in interpretation [only]. [Do not say that you have read the chats enough, and you know The Beautiful One. Spiritual maturity needs to be in hal, not in word only…]
Do not occupy your mind
With the one that passed.
I took from you,
I say to you.
Let
What the one who is from the ones who educate, grinds
Be wheat;
Let him/her never see stone on HIS path.
Even if The Reality comes initially as sour
Like in the example of unripe grape,
When IT matures, IT takes taste, [IT becomes tasty]
HIS human finds in love.
“Life [is] for Darling,” you say,
You love life, in life.
The one who is loved:
If he/she matures [spiritually] in hal
[then] He/she is beautiful.
[yet]
The one who stays away from hal
Is not considered as ugly.
[however,]
No hot pepper is added to sweet food.
Your love matures,
When it matures, it comes together.
The one that is in open
Resembles the one that stays in the well.
[for the one who stays in the well, do not say that he/she is in the well:]
Say [for him/her]: “The one who stays behind me.”
Do not stay without interpretation;
[yet] Try to stay without question.
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In caravansary, traveler matures [spiritually].
[Previous verses may be better understood under the light of the following information: Saint is the boniface of spiritual caravansary. Human who comes to earth is the traveler. Some humans come to the caravansary, get spiritual education, continue the journey like that, i.e. without wasting HIS Light that they had at the time of birth. Some humans pass without entering the caravansary…]
Did you take the mirror in your hand?
Did you find the soft path?
Do not say, “The one who loves;”
Say, “Let me love.”
The one who chooses without additive,
Is the one who gives up his/her food.
You wish for milk,
For yogurt, you say, “[it is] With additive.”
I gave the event of the day.
Yogurt is from milk but [it is] not milk.
What changes is
Because of the one that is added,
The ONE That is being thought of.
“I gave milk,
Let me take milk,” you say,
You forget the necessity of the yogurt.
“Let me take ITS news,
Let me set up The Beautiful One in my vision,” you say.
You took ITS news,
[now] You wish to see.
What is written in the record is seen.
In each event, interpretation opens
Like in the example of Yunus.
If
Being yogurt of the milk
Is necessary,
It will become yogurt.
When appropriate, it will give remedy too.
To [for] you,
The worry that you suffered on the day
Will be left.
Goodbye.
Lailaheillallah Muhammedur Resulullah. [Allah is The only One to be worshiped, and Mohammad is HIS Representative.]
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